Did the Methodists Torch Malibu?

Woolsey Fire Malibu

[Lost original source; this is an overview and basically, the Associated Press feed.]

The city of Malibu is under a mandatory evacuation order as the Woolsey fire threatens the communities of Calabasas and Malibu, covering as much as 8,000 acres as of Friday morning.

The city tweeted that the evacuation affects areas between the Ventura county line and Malibu Canyon.

All Santa Monica Unified School District schools and Pepperdine University are closed. There is also a power outage in the Big Rock neighborhood, which is outside the immediate evacuation area.

The area under mandatory evacuation includes the exclusive communities of Paradise Cove, Point Dume, Broad Beach and Malibu West.

Update, the city of Paradise has been reported destroyed.

The 101 freeway is closed as the both the Hill and Woolsey fires have jumped the freeway near Camarillo as well as in Agoura Hills near Malibu. The fast-moving Hill fires started near the community of Thousand Oaks, which was in the midst of grappling with the Wednesday night shooting that killed 12 at the Borderline nightclub.

The Thousand Oaks shooting is not remarkable–white male veteran, raised by a single mother, still lived with his mother and had regular, loud arguments with her, finally flipped out and wasted a roomful of random skanks with a high-powered fully automatic ASSAULT GUN OHMIGAWD THINK OF THE CHILDREN handgun. All you need to know.

So, this is a big fire that has a good chance of wiping the wealthy enclave of Maliby off the map. I know from personal experience that the terrain there is extremely rugged, steep and covered in tinder. What caused it? Arson is always a possibility these days. Some are blaming the electric company:

PG&E power lines may have sparked deadly Camp Fire, according to radio transmissions

Company reported a transmission line outage about 15 minutes before the fire was reported


PARADISE — Downed PG&E power lines, amid high winds, may have sparked the deadly Camp Fire that has destroyed the town of Paradise and killed at least nine people, according to hours of firefighter radio transmissions reviewed by Bay Area News Group.

At about 6:33 a.m. Thursday, firefighters were dispatched to a vegetation fire “under the high tension power lines” across the Feather River from Poe Dam, where Cal Fire officials have pinpointed the fire’s origin, according to the transmissions. The first firefighters arrived there at 6:43 a.m and noted the fire was being buttressed by 35 mph winds.

“We’ve got eyes on the vegetation fire. It’s going to be very difficult to access, Camp Creek Road is nearly inaccessible,” one firefighter told dispatch. “It is on the west side of the river underneath the transmission lines.”

As firefighters rushed to Poe Dam early Thursday morning, each truck acknowledged over the radio, “Copy, power lines down,” as part of safety protocol for firefighters.

The utility, which already has been criticized and sued in a number of other large and deadly fires across California, had announced two days earlier that it might shut down power to parts of Butte County amid forecasts of high wind and low humidity. But it never did.

I once investigated a rumor that Governor Moonbeam had withheld funding for brush clearance around rural electrical lines. To my surprise, Moonbeam’s defense that the counties had barely touched the earmarked fund proved correct and that post didn’t get written. Although it’s curious the fund was made available to counties rather than the utility companies directly.

Pacific Gas & Electric and other electrical utilities will probably be sued out of business within the next five years and their infrastructure seized by the State whether or not it’s at fault. There’s a lot of lawsuits being directed at them… utilities have famously deep pockets for lawsuits… but too many are too greedy.

Cal Fire spokesman Scott McLean emphasized the cause is still under investigation but added that the probe would include “electrical equipment.”

PG&E disclosed in a Friday filing to the state Public Utilities Commission that it had detected an outage on a transmission line in Butte County, occurring about 15 minutes before the fire was first reported. It said a subsequent aerial inspection detected damage to a transmission tower on that same transmission line a mile northeast of the town of Pulga “in the area of the Camp Fire.” That is the approximate location of Poe Dam. …

On Thursday morning, after the first radio call, an immediate, multi-alarm response was sent to the area along Pulga and Camp Creek roads, near the dam that is popular with kayakers and one of PG&E’s 10 hydroelectric stations along the north fork of the river. Google satellite images show PG&E transmission lines above Pulga and Camp Creek roads.

Faulty electrical equipment plus high winds and a decade-long drought are certainly a possible cause. But I have some familiarity with the Malibu area and frankly, I’ve been waiting a year for this fire to happen because of another likely cause: the Methodist Church.

Malibu church ‘pressured to end meals for the homeless’ because it ‘lures the needy’


By Andrew Buncombe, 25 November 2017

A church in upmarket Malibu has decided to stop providing free meals for those in need after claiming they were told by officials they were attracting too many homeless people.

The United Methodist Church, one of many churches that provides food and help, has been offering free meals twice a week. But it said it was going to stop after being told the meal service was luring too many homeless people.

Dawn Randall, a member of the church, said it recently received an email from city officials. “Very succinctly, they claimed we are increasing homelessness,” she told CBS.

You get more of what you subsidize. This is the hard part of Christian charity, giving actual help to people legitimately in need. It takes both a warm heart and a cold head.

Reports suggest that the California city of Malibu, famed for its gorgeous beaches and multi-million dollar homes, has a growing problem with homelessness, an issue that was met with both charity and taxpayer money.

The Los Angeles Times said the city, which has a population of 13,000, has roughly 180 homeless residents, but no shelter or housing for poor people.

The United Methodist Church and Standing on Stone, a Christian group, had been hosting twice-weekly homeless dinners on Wednesdays and Thursdays.

But the newspaper said once the metro line to Santa Monica opened last year, a number of residents complained that mentally-ill and other homeless people were camping at the beach and entering schools.

Cheap, fast transportation has done more to doom humanity than any force in human history, excepting telecommunications.

“A homeless person was taking a shower in the girls locker room in middle school – that wasn’t real good,” Gary Peterson, a retired developer, told the newspaper. “Providing dinner is a nice thing to do and a good thing, but it’s the location.”

At a public hearing this week, Malibu Mayor Skylar Peak denied making the order and apologised for any miscommunication.

“No they were never formally asked to stop feeding the homeless,” said Mr Peak. “Not at all.”

Neither the church or Mr Peak immediately responded to inquiries.

So, the Methodist witches were informally asked to stop feeding the homeless but a combination of care-based morality, scorn for the (other) rich people in the area and ignorance of cause and effect led them to point-and-shriek. Prudent gov’t officials try to do things informally rather than throw down their full weight at the start of an issue but women only respect the exercise of power.

The current leader of Malibu United Methodist Church is “Reverend” Sandy Liddell:

Photos: Celebrating Easter on the Beach | Photos | malibutimes.com

Sourced from http://www.malibutimes.com/photos/article_b46d63ae-3831-11e8-9376-1f3c293457d3.html All church officers are female.

The Orange County Register has a concurrent article. It seems the Methodist hens aren’t just running a soup kitchen:

Great food, beaches, weather: Being homeless in Malibu has some perks


By Tony Saavedra, 13 November 2017

It might be the nation’s best homeless meal.

The starter course on this night is centered around a selection of pizza slices, artisan bread and charcuterie. The entree is a choice of homemade stew, beef or chicken, along with Persian rice, roasted organic vegetables, green salad and cornbread, accompanied by a subtle, home-spiced pasta soup. Dessert is cherry pie.

It’s all served at sunset in an elegant patio, accompanied by light strands draped tastefully between trees and the salty whiff of the nearby Pacific Ocean.

Being homeless in Malibu has its perks.


Every Wednesday, these weekly dinners at the Malibu United Methodist Church and Nursery School — with food supplied by a neighborhood organic market and prepped by local volunteers — draws up to 100 transients. Most sleep somewhere in Malibu, but some take the bus from Santa Monica or Venice.

The church and the patio where dinner is served sits on a hill overlooking Zuma Beach, just down a curved road from Lady Gaga’s $23 million mansion.

It’s an uneasy fit. … Tensions are high enough that the transients who bus in try to stay out of sight until dinner. They don’t want to be spotted by parents picking up their toddlers from the adjacent nursery school, sightings that might prompt complaints to local sheriff’s deputies.

On Nov. 6, Malibu Mayor Skylar Peak and Councilman Rick Mullen asked the dinner’s founder and main cook, Kay Gabbard, to end the meals for at least a five-month period, starting after Thanksgiving. They want to see if the free meal has any effect on local crime.

Cue the witches’ point-and-shriek.

According to Los Angeles County figures, there are approximately 5,500 homeless people in the West Los Angeles area, including 900 in Santa Monica and more than 1,000 in Venice. In Malibu, the official count found about 180 homeless people, but more recent estimates peg the number at closer to 300.

Sandy Liddell, pastor of Malibu United Methodist, said she hopes to cut a deal with the city that won’t hurt the people who make the Wednesday night pilgrimage for nourishment and fellowship.

“A lot of people don’t like this. They don’t like all the people walking by and they don’t feel safe,” Liddell said. “We’re working hard to keep it open.”

Jesus didn’t betray his neighbors to help the next town’s parasites. There’s a right way to do charity and a wrong way: this is the wrong way, risking your neighbors for the benefit of other societies’ parasites.

In 2016, the city experienced its highest property crime rate in the past 10 years, including decade-long highs in theft and motor vehicle theft, and an eight-year high in burglaries. But the raw numbers are so low to begin with – comparable to per capita crime rates in similarly affluent Laguna Beach – that the spikes are the kind of relatively small jumps that would make other Southern California cities envious.

Let’s not jump to conclusions….

Many of the arrests made in Malibu are for low level crimes that garner little, if any, jail time.

Since 2013, deputies made less than 1,000 arrests or citations for issues such as public intoxication and assignments — voluntary and involuntary — to psychiatric facilities. Deputies also have issued about 250 citations for illegal camping, mostly to homeless people, as well as citations for panhandling, fighting, criminal threats and urinating in public.

…Aaaand it’s the homeless.

By halting the Methodist kitchen, Malibu officials hope to be able to look at whether the crimes fall or rise and, perhaps, connect them with the city’s transients, Councilman Mullen said. The city is also considering whether there is a better place for the dinners.

Both are reasonable concerns and voluntary cooperation with a temporary charity shutdown would have been in the church’s best interests. Now they’re at risk for the legislative Ban Hammer.

“They’re worried that the riff raff is going to come here from Santa Monica and start staying,” said Wayne Salte, 53, a former construction worker who lives homeless in Santa Monica.

“But every one of the people here will be on the bus back there tonight. There’s nothing up here, so they’ve got to go back to town where they can panhandle and make money.”

But Salte said Santa Monica has launched its own sweeps after discovering its transient population had grown by 26 percent over the previous 12 months. Salte said police in that city are issuing more tickets and fines to the homeless. Santa Monica police did not respond to calls for comment.

I’ve seen this happen in the Bay Area. When San Jose purges their homeless, they do it by purchasing them bus tickets to Santa Cruz instead of paying for their incarceration in local jail. Santa Cruz sends them to Salinas. Salinas sends them to Berkeley. Berkeley teaches them how to make bombs out of their piss.

The article goes on to list several interesting accounts of Malibu homelessness. I recommend following the link. A year later, reading today about a fire that started along the shore of one of the area’s few remaining rivers, it’s hard to believe it wasn’t a cooking or warmth fire started by the homeless that got out of control. Homeless that might well have been attracted there by free buffets twice a week.

Whether infrastructure or population, California is failing. The feminist/Social Justice agenda with its hatred of unsexy men is causing massive, systemic problems across the state,problems such as city-burning wildfires, and our leaders, thus far, have been content to watch the world burn. Their luxury homes in Malibu are safe.

Or, maybe not. Things might change if Lady Gaga watches her third favorite investment house burn down. Or if God decides to burn a few witches at the steak.


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