From an commentary exchange on
We begin with a blood-boiling excerpt of National Review’s Kevin Williamson on the plight of impoverished rural whites:
If you spend time in hardscrabble, white upstate New York, or eastern Kentucky, or my own native West Texas, and you take an honest look at the welfare dependency, the drug and alcohol addiction, the family anarchy — which is to say, the whelping of human children with all the respect and wisdom of a stray dog — you will come to an awful realization. It wasn’t Beijing. It wasn’t even Washington, as bad as Washington can be. It wasn’t immigrants from Mexico, excessive and problematic as our current immigration levels are. It wasn’t any of that.
Nothing happened to them. There wasn’t some awful disaster. There wasn’t a war or a famine or a plague or a foreign occupation. Even the economic changes of the past few decades do very little to explain the dysfunction and negligence — and the incomprehensible malice — of poor white America. So the gypsum business in Garbutt ain’t what it used to be. There is more to life in the 21st century than wallboard and cheap sentimentality about how the Man closed the factories down.
The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible. Forget all your cheap theatrical Bruce Springsteen crap. Forget your sanctimony about struggling Rust Belt factory towns and your conspiracy theories about the wily Orientals stealing our jobs. Forget your goddamned gypsum, and, if he has a problem with that, forget Ed Burke, too. The white American underclass is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles. Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin. What they need isn’t analgesics, literal or political. They need real opportunity, which means that they need real change, which means that they need U-Haul.
Novaseeker proceeded to support him: On Williamson he wasn’t saying he wants whites to die, he was saying he wants whites in downscale blighted communities to leave them and go to parts of the country where there are more opportunities for them, and a less dysfunctional local culture. This is not necessarily bad advice from a life perspective for people from such places. Of course, it does mean that such places “die off”, but that’s happening now anyway, just with more dysfunction and suffering than if the people who are born there leave for greener pastures.
Me: What parts of the country offering opportunity? Can you name a few?
Novaseeker: That’s easy. The places in the country where white folks from the upper midwest and industrial northeast, as well as rural areas, have been moving to for the past few decades — mostly growing metros in the southern tier: Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Austin, Nashville, Charlotte to name a few, never mind coastal metros that have had huge influxes of whites in the same period like the DC. I am sure there are other areas I am not thinking of, but these places aren’t hiding, and it’s no mystery that the boom in population they are seeing is largely due to internal migration from older industrial areas as well as more rural ones. What Williamson is saying is: leave the blighted industrial and rural areas and go to one of the places that is booming with growth and development.
That is the globalist agenda and Novaseeker is hardly the only voice in the Manosphere to commit this snub. I don’t mean mistake; I mean, it is arrogant to tell people with no options that they should abandon their homes and go live in the cities where the jobs are.
First off, poor whites aren’t just whining. As I said in the linked article, First the Elites imported 30 million low-class Dindus in a single generation, then they exported every factory they could to China, now they fault low-class whites for complaining they don’t have jobs anymore while pushing mass-transit projects that would make even fast food joints at exits off the Interstate unprofitable.
We are not talking about the local mine being played out or lazy workers not following the factory to its new location in Pittsburgh (or today, in Pakistan!). The Elites are waging white genocide. They are starving out the white poor.
Additionally, the Elites want to centralize the population for ease of control. The advice to “just uproot yourself and go live in the cities” plays directly into this. It’s not a coincidence that all the economic growth just happens to be in metro areas. This is by legislative design.
Putting aside the globalist agenda, why the hell are Manospherians recommending people move to areas where they themselves don’t live? Novaseeker is in DC and tells poor people they should go to Texas and Georgia. He literally does not know what he’s talking about. I do not tell people where they should live except when I have personal experience there. Demographics and statistics do not define a neighborhood. The behavior of a roomful of legislators in the capitol does not determine what your neighbor will be like. I found a pleasant place in Commiefornia and the pundits would say that’s impossible because the governor 200 miles away is a jackass.
Speaking of personal experience, I actually followed that advice. Twenty years ago and unemployed, I went all-in and moved to the Denver area to find work. (Colorado was solidly Red-state then and I could tell where California was headed.) The effort coincided with one of the recessions preceding the Second Depression. My money ran out after a year of not even landing a burger job… just one contract gig that didn’t last… and if my parents back in Cali hadn’t kept my bedroom free, I would’ve been FUBAR.
I was “wealthy” enough to have family that could take me in. Not all poor men have that option. “Listen, Pa, San Antonio isn’t working out. At all. Can you float me bus money back to upstate New York? No? You were actually thinking of selling out and joining me? No, don’t join me… I’ll find something.” Poor people have to think about such possibilities before loading up the car and driving 1,000 miles to a place that statistics and pundits say is a sure thing. Statistics and pundits don’t lie, right? Unskilled labor is highly paid there, right? Apprenticeships galore?
You think my story is unique? There’s a documentary “The Overnighters” you should watch about poor men who followed everybody’s advice to the oilfields.
You think the rural poor should relocate to follow work? Then how about you open your garage for their use as a crash pad so they have a reliable place & contact to get started in an unfamiliar area? Would it kill wealthier whites to care enough about their lesser brothers to lend a hand along with the dismissive advice? I accept it’s difficult to identify trustworthy people so far away from you… but now you see the problem. You don’t know how the other half lives or even who the other half is. They don’t either.
Lastly, all of North America is going down. It’s completely feminized. It’s completely buried in debt. Completely Godless. Completely vulnerable to Dindu colonization. Everybody hates Californian expats because it’s easier to blame those who reached the feminist destination than themselves still making the journey. If your women vote then you’re next to suffer our fate. It’s that simple.
Maybe the poor of Appalachia are better off digging in and going off the grid than waging their meager savings on an all-or-nothing shot into urban Leftoid strongholds. That’s not for me to say. It’s for them to consider but I won’t let them be buffaloed into a rash decision by people with uninformed opinions.